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The Timeline Predicament


Two points are involved, perhaps more in the end, with getting this timeline together. The first of which was deciding how much time should pass before it was believable the first war occurred. As mentioned before, this world is not an Adam and Eve like society where it started with two people and from those two people all of mortal kind stems. The first conflict is between two races of people; the Sylvan, the children of Danu, and the Sidhe, the children of Erebh. The Sidhe are in essence created in secret and hidden from the rest of the world, so their procreation can be watched and managed with absolute care. With that evil kept secret, the other races can be watched as well, though not in the same way. Regardless, there is nothing hampering their procreation. And since they are not like Adam and Eve, they are placed in numerous places within each world, to grow in many realms. So, with roughly 150 years, I hope it is believable but I still wonder.

The next point of worry is the statement in the story that, within the world of Demeteria, the Ageless Empire lasted for 1,000 years. So I have to struggle into stretching the timeline out to make it believable for a few hundred years of history prior to the Empire’s rise, a few hundred years after for the unification of the Elves into their new nation, and the final lead in to the current timeline of the story in Repeating History. Once I have the elven part of the timeline fleshed out, I’ll have to work on the human end again, and fix their end to match the Elf timeline, but that will, in the end, include pretty much doubling the content I already have there, which will be rough. And then of course, there’s the nearly 2,000 years of Dwarven civil conflict that weaves in and out of it, and blends with both human and elven histories. Both Elven and Dwarven are in the works at the moment, but I will be focusing on the Elves first.

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Timeline: The First War Ever


The First War Ever is basically a lead in to the Last War Ever. Biblical implications abound. Well, to put it plainly, one of the creators disliked what was done in creation, and felt he could do better, so he made his own creation, and in fact if you look at it clearly, he does do at the very least the same thing, on his own.

The first war is a multi-positioned war, pitting the Dwarves, Humans, and Sylvan against the Giants and the Sidhe. It does not simply take place on one world, but across an entire cosmos, and I am endeavoring to cover the timeline of this event through each world’s perspective. The only constant between each world is the Giants are sealed in arcane slumber, the Sylvan and Sidhe fight each other to a unified extinction, Humans lose their knowledge of magic, and then, life carries on in its different ways depending on the world in question.

The Sylvan wrote two “biblical” texts amidst the worlds, called the Tome of Wisdom and the Tome of Truth. One tells of the events of creation and one tells of their perceived prophecy of their demise, but also of their endeavors to stop it. I haven’t written these texts out. I mean, I don’t think I could hold to Blizzard’s means of writing prophecy much less biblical level.

And, at the End of Days, Wisdom shall be lost
as Justice falls upon the world of men.
Valor shall turn to Wrath
and all Hope will be swallowed by Despair.
Death, at last, shall spread its wings over all
as Fate lies shattered forever.

And, at the End of Days,
the first sign shall appear in the Heavens.
Justice shall fall upon the world of men.
The armies of Light and Shadow
shall clash across the fields of eternity.

I have some ideas regarding … unique names or titles that could be twisted into euphemism and metaphor, but to write something like this, I doubt I ever could make it seem as poetic or prophetic; the kind of thing the people in the story would spend decades, centuries, lifetimes debating its meaning.

And of course, I still debate with whether or not the years are believable enough for my timeline. As promised, here’s some shots of what I have so far regarding the beginning of the world and its first war.

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Demeteria is one of my worlds, and so this is the timeline for how the first war played out, in general view, there, as well as the general beginning timeline that affects all worlds in the cosmos. You’ll see my Elven Calendar in use in the timeline. See this post for my developing of that calendar.

 

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Timey Whimy Liney Whiny


Here comes the shocker, I know nothing about Dr. Who. Just have friends who say Timey Whimy a lot, so I’ve picked it up.

Anyway, onto seriousness. As I’ve mentioned, I worked on some World Building stuff through Writing.com, and of that stuff, a Timeline was a part of it. I had always wanted to build up a time line, to show specifically the past events I mention of the history of Haven in my writing. However, with working on the timeline I looked, of course, at things that also pre-date Haven and things that have nothing to do with the Human’s regions of the worlds. However, I did work on Haven’s history mostly for the purposes of the Writing.com class and preparation in world building.

I got 640 years into the history of Haven, when I stared at a single line of the timeline and my jaw dropped. The line was simply … “Elena Outridge is born.” Now, why is that a problem. Well, I mentioned this on my tumblr site, so those that watch there are going to see it again, but now that I’m trying to force myself to be more adamant about blogging, I have this site and tumblr linked up so that both display the same post as I make them, mainly to reach more people, but also to see just how many people see it. Is my tumblr site getting more attention or this one?

Well, anyway, another character in my story mentions that a specific empire lasted for 1,000 years. So, not reaching 1,000 years yet was one problem. The other problem was that Elena is in the same story. She’s of a long-living race, so it’s not an issue if she lives to be 400+ years old, but she’s supposed to still be young when she meets Alek, the main character of that story where it is mentioned the empire lasted for 1,000 years. With that being said, it is not just a matter of reaching the year 1,000, because obviously, the world was not created with an empire in power, not the empire had to rise to power. And how long does that take? How long does it take for the people placed on the world in the moment of creation to reach a population capable of waging war on each other? So it’s possible I’m looking at not just reaching 1,000, but adding 1,000 years to the timeline. With the thought of adding 1,000 years in between what I already had for Haven came to me, I had a moment of lost enthusiasm and motivation to continue.

However, I’m still at it. I have taken my focus off of Haven though. The Empire in question is an Empire forged by a group of Elves. It does not have any baring on the history of Haven, and the Elves were not at odds with the humans of Haven, but simply, one characters tells Alek, a human of Haven, about the empire the Elves had. It is part of his education and training to be a soldier, so it is something I need to flesh out since he will be learning about it. The first thing I did was look at creation and that question I asked just a moment ago. How long would it take for the people of creation to grow into civilizations large enough to wage war upon each other? This is not an Adam & Eve style creation, because there are more than just humans in my worlds. There’s Humans, Dwarves, Elves, Orcs, Trolls, Dragons, and various other minor races. More importantly, the Elves and Dwarves are divided into subcategories or subspecies based upon certain things. For the Dwarves, they are divided among the different forms of stone and mineral that they come from. Elves are divided among the different terrain styles or terrain fixtures where they live. Thus, there are Iron Dwarves, Stone Dwarves, Obsidian Dwarves, etc. and Forest Elves, Sand Elves, Snow Elves, etc. So, these worlds follow a multiple Adam & Eve style of creation. There are multiple locations, or centers of civilization, where two of each are placed. Even without only two people being the beginning, there was still the wonder of how fast these groups could grow. I wagered 100 years, and pushed that first war back an extra 100 years than I had previously. Then, from the end of that war, I followed from there and began the history of the Elves and the Ageless Empire.

It is going slowly, as coming up with 1,000+ years of history is daunting to say the least. Especially about a group I had never made any specifics about except in regards to their fall. However, I did add a couple facts to work with when I made the calendar I mentioned in a previous post. Two of the months are, like in the Gregorian Calendar, named for two figures in regards to Elven History. Where in the Gregorian it is July named for Julius Caesar and August named for Augustus Caesar, I have Hyandime and Raenime named for Raenir ael’Sylvere, the man who led the Gray Elf Nation that would become the Ageless Empire when he finally drove the Orcs away, and Hyandur Silverleaf, the man who had united the various Elven sub-races into a unified nation after the Ageless Empire’s fall had scattered them. For now, I focus on the Empire’s rise, as I have not even reached that point yet.

In the next post about timelines, I will share some screenshots of what I’m working on, as I fill my head up with names that will live and die in the space of 20 lines of text, perhaps.

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Nano and WDC


Nanowrimo is around the corner, and I shall indeed be taking part again. Not sure exactly what I’m going to work on this time, but, I would like to take the time to expound upon my recent endeavors towards urging my writing along.

I signed up on Writing.com a year ago, but never really looked at it beyond the first few visits. I forget what caused me to drift from it, but I did. Recently, I looked back, and got involved with a group on the site called World In Progress. They have these little courses designed to help a writer work on their characters, world, and other related topics towards strengthening their writing’s background. i.e. all that unwritten stuff that pretty much just exists in the writer’s head so they can write the story itself and make it more believable.

Well, I took their Character Creative, Timeline Technique, and Wonders of World Building classes. I’m going to look into the Ethnicity as well, just for the hell of it, but the point I wanted to make was…. I ventured away from using Fractal Mapper, and other programs, and looked into a video about building a map on Photoshop. I don’t have photoshop, but used gimp, and used what is available there to emulate what was done with the video, and I think I like how it came out there MUCH more than how it came out in the other programs. Not only did I make Verdania look better than on previous images, but I mapped out the other continents of the world of Demeteria, and am in the process of working on Arvandor as well. So, here we are, my map of Demeteria’s land masses.

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My only dislike for this image, is the lack of ability to zoom in on specific regions of the map and put in more detail. It only comes up with a blurred, larger form of the area when I zoom in, even while I was working on it. So, even though I like how this turned out, I am still thinking of trying again if I ever get Campaign Cartographer 3.

This was not all I worked on, I made character sheets for a couple characters, and will continue to do others for other characters, but more importantly, I started work on a time line. I’ve hit a snag around the year 640, for the kingdom of Haven, not liking how I haven’t reached the year 1000 yet, and have already gotten certain events into the timeline. I’m going to switch my focus to the Elves, and work on their portion of the timeline, and see if I can stretch things out so that it at least exceeds 1,000 years, because I do have bits in the story already that refer to an event having happened 1,000 years ago, so the timeline won’t be complete anytime soon, but it is at least started and I’m working on it, which I had no idea how to start prior to this class. All thanks to Minara, GoldenAmber, and Robyn Sparks, the teachers & leaders of this group on Writing.Com.

My name on Writing.Com is the same as my Nano name, in case anyone wants to check me out: VerdaniaMan.

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Elven Currency Pt. 2


So, after writing the other post about currency, I got to thinking about what the coins would look like. Other than a circular shape and the color of their respective metals, I thought about the different leaves that would be used to decorate the individual coins to give another bit of a look to represent their value, especially since there’s more than one coin for each type of metal.

Per – Beech Tree leaf, simple oval shape, no serrations or parts.
Mir – Water Birch leaf, oval shaped with serrated “teeth” along the edges.
Uru – Alder leaf, tear drop shaped, serrated edges.
Eneg – Ash leaf, ellipse shaped with pointed ends, no serration.
Paen – Rowan leaf, long oval shaped leaf, rounded ends, minor serration.
Telem – Apple leaf, rounded, semi oval shaped leaf, pointed end, no serration.
Síla – Grape leaf, large three pointed, circular shaped leaf, minor serration.
Pery – Horse Chestnut leaf, 5 parted, oval shaped leaves, no serrations.
Col – Maple leaf, the royal symbol, 3 pointed leaf, no serrations.
Mall – Maple leaf, the royal symbol, 5 pointed leaf, no serrations.
Airi – Green Poplar leaf, three serrated, smooth tip lobes.
Carar – Ivy leaf, three pointed lobes, no serration.
Celer – Oak leaf, multi-pointed lobes, no serration.
Ithil – Fig leaf, five lobed, round tipped, minor serration.
Laur – Hemlock leaf, multi-pointed, tiny leaves forming larger three-pointed leaf shape, minor serration.
Macal – Leather leaf Fern, a cluster of tiny oval leaves close together and connected upon a fern branch.

I’m sure I could have done better with some of them, but I could no longer think of any leaves that seemed like they could fit.

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Elven Currency


Watching an episode of the Hercule Poirot mysteries, I was encouraged to look into information about old currencies. Specifically, a scene regarding the “absurdity” of a six shilling (72 pence) charge for a chunk of meat (during post WWII times) prompted me to look into the set up of the old English currency, and from there, I looked into others, like the ancient Greek drachma and the Roman denarius. This got me thinking about the currency the Elves would use in my stories. I decided to take a little of the Roman and English stuff and come up with my own names, and form the currency for the Elves, even if it’s only mentioned briefly in certain scenes of my writing. It helps me feel like it is all more alive in my head. Anyway….

The lowest form of the currency is a cent or pence equivalent, and since the majority of the Elves are generally a nature loving breed of people, I presumed that the names for these things should be based around nature. Thus, their cent is called a “Lasse” which means leaf. And under the pretense that there are many leaves on a Tree, their dollar, or pound, would be named for such, or “Ord.” Lastly, I felt, why stop there? Just as there are many leaves on a tree, there are many trees in a forest, and so there is a higher dollar, or pound, named thusly, or “Eryn.” Each individual coin I named to reflect some aspect of the material used to make such a coin. Sometimes, currency gains slang terms that become universally recognized and accepted. (i.e. buck being used to refer to the dollar, quid being used to refer to the pound)

Tel’Lasse (“The Leaf”), Tel’Orn (“The Tree”), & Tel’Eryn (“The Forest”)
Per – copper coin, Per are worth 1/2 of a Lasse. (also sometimes called a Tharn, “Twig”)
Mir – copper coin, Mir are the standard 1 Lasse coin. (A Leaf)
Uru – bronze coin, Uru are worth 3 Lasse.
Eneg – bronze coin, Eneg are worth 6 Lasse.
Paen – silver coin, Paen are worth 12 Lasse.
Telem – silver coin, Telem are worth 30 Lasse. (also sometimes called an Olb, “Branch”)
Síla – gold coin, Síla are worth 75 Lasse.
Pery – gold coin, Pery are worth 150 Lasse.
Col – Tamberil coin, Col are worth 300 Lasse, or 1 Orn. (A Tree)
Mall – Tamberil coin, Mall are worth 900 Lasse, or 3 Orn.
Airi – Gaeril coin, Airi are worth 1,800 Lasse, or 6 Orn.
Carar – Gaeril coin, Carar are worth 3,600 Lasse, or 12 Orn.
Celer – Mithril coin, Celer are worth 9,000 Lasse, or 30 Orn.
Ithil – Mithril coin, Ithil are worth 22,500 Lasse, or 75 Orn.
Laur – Maldaril coin, Laur are worth 45,000 Lasse, or 150 Orn.
Macal – Maldaril coin, Macal are worth 90,000 Lasse, 300 Orn, or 1 Eryn. (A Forest)

And now, a little information on the metals. Mithril did not only feature in the Tolkien universe of stories around Middle-Earth, but in other fantasy realms. According to dictionaries compiled from Tolkien’s writing, Mithril means “shining gray” and is used to refer to true-silver, perhaps platinum. I felt why should silver be the only one. So I came up with Tamberil and Maldaril as copper and gold equivalents to that idea. The idea of bronze coins comes from the roman currency system. Oddly, there is no word for bronze in Tolkien’s Elvish languages. I used Gaer for the sparkling bronze equivalent, because it has to do with the color of copper, which is as close to bronze as I can find among the dictionaries. It means red and ruddy, more than copper, so… take what you can get. Anyway, there we have it.

Obviously, the coins would also be carved into the shapes of leaves, perhaps with some green worked in with the metals, to make them look more like leaves.

Anyway, this is only the currency for the Elves, and could be the same for Elves from Arvandor as well as Demeteria, as the designs carved on the leaves themselves could specify which world they’re from, as opposed to the leaf design aspects. Like with other coins, marks of the monarchs could be on one side, while the other side bore the mark of the leaf and perhaps some structure or saying. I’ll be working on currency ideas for the other groups of peoples within each story in time as well though.

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Historical Fact & Fictional “What ifs?”


I cannot consider myself a history buff, because I do not put as much effort into learning about more as I could. I enjoy history, always have, and do not shun learning something more, but I do not avidly look for that something as much as my father did when he was younger. One of the key points in history I like to learn more about, however, is that of the Roman era; from the founding of the Republic, to the growth of an empire, and then ultimately, its fall.

First, I’d like to share what I believe to be some little known Roman facts.

  • 1:) The term dictator comes from the Latin (like most things in the English language) from the ranks of the Roman Republic. The dictator was a military leader that was given absolute control within the Republic under emergency measures. Once the emergency situation ended, the dictator’s power was returned to the Senate. Julius Caesar was the last to hold the rank. Caesar refused to step down and return his power, at the end of the Gallic Wars. This incited civil war within the Republic, which resulted in the deaths of Pompey. He marched back into roman territory with a legion at his back, and fought his way back. Contrary to the idea that Julius Caesar declared himself emperor, only to turn around be back-stabbed by his friends, the event of the Ides of March only occurred 5 years after he was declared Dictator in Perpetuity. Though the majority of those who vied against Caesar on the Ides of March were Senatorial supporters, it was Julius’s adopted son (Octavian, later known as Augustus Caesar) that would end up taking control of Rome afterwards, tearing the Roman Republic down, and bringing in the birth of the Roman Empire.
  • 2:) The Roman Republic and Empire were responsible for many technological advances that no one managed to duplicate for more than 1,000 years after the fall of Rome. Two of their major technological advances that took AGES to duplicate, was the invention of aqueducts and cisterns. In a time, prior to 500 AD, they made sewers and water systems. Yet, in medieval times, 1,000 years later, they still had no duplicated this, and were still emptying chamber pots by hand into ditches, and dumping buckets of water out of windows. A little taste of my what-if portion of this post… What would have happened regarding the Buebonic Plague if sewers had existed in the time? The story of the volcano in the city of Pompeii revolves around a man who was an engineer of the time. He investigated a aqueduct “pipe” that was responsible for carrying mountain water into the town being in need of repair due to the gas emitted from the volcano that was about to erupt. The time period after the fall of Rome was called the Dark Ages. Did anyone ever wonder why? This is one of the reasons why. Perhaps the major reason why.
  • 3:) The fall of Rome was not a quick thing. It took many years to reach its conclusion, and there were a few points in history where the empire managed to retake some of its lost territory. However, throughout the fall of Rome, the barbarian invaders were jealous of Rome’s wisdom. To punish this, they burned libraries. And what do you think happened, when the only medium for storing knowledge was destroyed?

So, the Dark Ages were called the Dark Ages because of the lost knowledge with the fall of Rome. Cisterns and Aqueducts were not the only thing lost, a general sense of knowledge was lost. All of Rome’s advances forgotten, the people reverted in time, basically, with how they lived and how they did things. How they survived, how they built their homes and towns, how they gathered the necessities of life. How long did it take for sewers and water systems to return to daily life? Well, depending upon your definition of sewers, there were various attempts throughout the years to create run-off trenches to let gravity and the downstream flow of waste and water to travel into moats and even rivers throughout medieval times. Even in the 1800’s, there was still dead-end attempts and flabbergasted people with sewer concerns. As confirmed in a newspaper heading from the 1800’s stating “India Is In Revolt, and The Thames Stinks.” There are various instances in history where people died from the stench of poorly disposed of waste. Outhouses seems so simple, in comparison to what was done prior to their existence, and it wasn’t until the 1900’s, that indoor plumbing and sewage disposal was funneled below grounds into a sewer of proper function. The Roman cisterns first came into existence in 800 BC. Imagine that? Slightly more than 2,000 years before our current era has figured out how to do it right, the Romans already knew how. And it was all lost when the Barbarians that invaded Rome decided to say “You stupid smarties! What are you without books?” and burned the libraries. Well, they made a point. Unfortunately, it did nothing to prove a point worth proving.

And now, my “what if?” question. What if the Roman Empire had not fallen? What if the Romans had staved off the Barbarians, and instead of crumbling and losing knowledge, continued to grow? What if the Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Vandals, and Huns had all fallen beneath the might of the Roman Legions, and the Roman empire had expanded its control in all regards? Pushed further south, deeper into Africa? Pushed up to the North Sea, taking over what is modern day Germany and Denmark, and perhaps even advanced into a naval invasion of Scandinavia? What if they had pushed east, and taken modern day Hungary, pushing their eastern borders beyond the Caspian Sea, and to the Ural Mountains? What if they had pushed further into the Middle East? Before the Roman Empire, each great Empire was eclipsed by another, and consumed the entirety of the previous Empire. Rome did not do that. Rome was the largest of them all, but they did not extend as far east as Persia and Greece had. They took Asia Minor and Isreal, but Persia and Greece extended all the way to Modern day India. the Mongolian Empire took nearly all of Asia, and attempted to extend into Europe, because they did not know how to transport supplies over such a great distance, and basically destroyed their own empire BECAUSE of how much territory they claimed. What if they had Rome’s technology? Could they have survived it? Could they have conquered Asia & Europe? What if Rome never fell, and instead, continued to grow? It split into two different Empires, led by two different Emperors, because they began to feel that a single entity could not control the vastness of their Empire. What if it continued to grow and continued to split, forming the boundaries of our world’s nations through its continued expansion rather from the contention between the subsequent powers that rose up after the fall of Rome? And what if, one day, the entire world was a division, in some way, of that Roman Empire? Where would our technology be now? If that 2,000 years had not been spent trying to duplicate something lost, but instead expanding upon it? Where would we be now? The current technology could very well have been discovered years ago. When would computers have come to be? planes? trains? automobiles? What would people have thought about the year 2,000 had the Roman advancements been allowed to flourish and grow rather than be snuffed out? Would the Buebonic Plague have been as devastating? Would the idea of a round world and expansion to the new world have happened sooner?

And so I come to that sci-fi story idea I had a while back. I think I would like to explore the idea of a world where the Roman Empire had not fallen. Of course, it would not be called the Roman Empire, as this would be a world other than Earth, and its layout would be different than the cartographic layout of the Earth. However, I do plan to do some research into Latin, and making a Roman-esque society that has grown into the space age while other worlds … like… Demeteria (yes, it will be in the same cosmos) are still in a medieval society. In the world for this story, they main character is interested in knowledge, and he’s from a world that, while libraries were not lost, the progression of time has led to the populace’s forgetfulness regarding things that used to be. People can go to a library and read about it, but they live in a society that has things so easy now, that they’ve forgotten many things. Something I plan to work on in time, and I’ll be jotting down notes here and there, but I shall not put any effort into writing for it just yet, as I still have much to do for my other two series. And with nothing published yet, I cannot do with distractions.

Anyway, that’s it for now. Just wanted to dump some of the stuff rattling around in my head down, so that it did not vanish in time.

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